tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post1684764140835908091..comments2024-01-09T04:20:39.453-05:00Comments on Around the Keg: Fact CheckingNoahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-81196722078994548272009-05-28T21:02:35.325-05:002009-05-28T21:02:35.325-05:00I'm with you Smitty. Another attack is the surest,...I'm with you Smitty. Another attack is the surest, quickest and easiest-to-exploit route back to power for the Republicans.<br /><br />I think Cheney relishes it, and plenty of others would be less-than-disappointed.<br /><br />Pure cost-benefit analysis for them.Mr Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-2673356416303060402009-05-28T12:48:05.912-05:002009-05-28T12:48:05.912-05:00I agree Bob; hence, this post. I think he does wa...I agree Bob; hence, this post. I think he <I>does</I> want an attack. It will suit his needs, which is re-ascenscion to power. He wanted the first one. And NOBODY can say he didn't know about...BECAUSE CONDI EVEN HAD A MEMO SAYING IT WAS COMING!!!<br /><br />He and his ilk care about nothing other than the ability top exact their philosophy.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-91194485830409829752009-05-28T10:33:29.414-05:002009-05-28T10:33:29.414-05:00Thanks, B Mac. That made my day. I laughed hard ...Thanks, B Mac. That made my day. I laughed hard at that one!Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13410628045985150441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-48910588155130862082009-05-28T10:22:45.955-05:002009-05-28T10:22:45.955-05:00Bob, obviously that one didn't count. Every admin...Bob, obviously that one didn't count. Every administration gets one "gimme". Unless they hate America (cough cough OBAMA cough), in which case the first one proves your inability to protect the homeland.B Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874975455332269325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-6302333112515686962009-05-28T09:36:05.572-05:002009-05-28T09:36:05.572-05:00Could someone remind Cheney that the last big atta...Could someone remind Cheney that the last big attack was on his watch?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669616484991718478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-69008329065716967952009-05-28T07:58:44.533-05:002009-05-28T07:58:44.533-05:00I think he genuinely believe his poistion is the c...<I>I think he genuinely believe his poistion is the correct one and that Obama is doing things that will make an attack easier. </I>I am sure Cheney thinks he is correct, but so far, everything he thinks is right has been horribly, horribly wrong. He is right in his own little vacuum. I'm happy to see debate, but the debate is between a guy trying to fix a broken situation, and another guy who advocated for everything wrong, was defeated soundly, is out of power, and is still trying to convince people that despite all the evidence, he was right. So you'll excuse my skepticism of Cheney's "pure" motives here...<br /><br />And it's the belief that Obama is making an attack easier that is my greatest concern. His words and his actions are in anticipation of an attack. In an attack, he gets to say "I told you so" even though an attack may be due to blowback from his administration's policies. But saying "I told you so" allows he and his party a chance to re-ascend to power again. And then do all the shit we hate again.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-9969124966439153112009-05-28T06:58:43.088-05:002009-05-28T06:58:43.088-05:00I was going to post something on Sotomayor...I was...<I>I was going to post something on Sotomayor...</I>I was hoping you would do more of a constitutional/legal analysis. No one else can do that but good ol Steve.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669616484991718478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-82996960804621269552009-05-27T19:56:03.245-05:002009-05-27T19:56:03.245-05:00I agree with Andy. Cheney is a hard-nosed attack ...I agree with Andy. Cheney is a hard-nosed attack dog, much as was Nixon. That being said, I don't buy the notion that he is hoping for some kind of attack any more than I believed "liberals" wanted us to lose the war. I think he genuinely believe his poistion is the correct one and that Obama is doing things that will make an attack easier. <br /><br />I don't tend to agree with Dick, but I don't see a problem with having this debate and I sure as shit wish we had this in the previous administration. <br /><br />I was going to post something on Sotomayor, but I'll just shelve it. Frankly, I am overwhelmed with the sheer volume of stuff on her and her history, that I wouldn't know where to start.steveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08862590608695420004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-11924881214632221242009-05-27T16:11:08.909-05:002009-05-27T16:11:08.909-05:00...but he was on a leash the whole time he was VP....<I>...but he was on a leash the whole time he was VP.</I>It almost, <I>almost</I> makes you respect W a little more. <br /><br />Cheney's comments remind me a little of Michelle Bachmann's (R-Crazytown) comments about some Congressmen being "anti-America", and Sarah Palin's (R-Mavericktown) comments about "pro-America" parts of the country. The suggestion is that Obama is actively trying to make things go wrong.<br /><br />I don't think Cheney hates freedom, security, or our troops. I just think he's a horrible human being.B Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874975455332269325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-38623520160607782922009-05-27T16:04:29.909-05:002009-05-27T16:04:29.909-05:00Seems to me that this is who Cheney is...but he wa...Seems to me that this is who Cheney is...but he was on a leash the whole time he was VP.<br /><br />He is now off the leash and will be an attack-dog. That is what he will do in his retirement. Some people go to Florida and drink out of a coconut. Others try to save the planet (Gore). Cheney is going to play the "agitated former insider" role and gripe about things using selective facts.<br /><br />No one believed him when he was VP (remember the whole WMD in Iraq argument) so why will they believe him now?Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13410628045985150441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-28098807119186955592009-05-27T15:56:22.067-05:002009-05-27T15:56:22.067-05:00Oh, cool. I'll hold off on mine then in lieu of y...Oh, cool. I'll hold off on mine then in lieu of yours. can't wait!<br /><br />There was a clip on The daily Show yesterday or so, whereby Bill Kristol stated that he actually sides with Darth Vader. While I am sure it was banter taken out of context, it just seems to be so....right.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14594994.post-29816672022578126232009-05-27T15:52:02.881-05:002009-05-27T15:52:02.881-05:00“There was one part of Cheney’s speech that distur...<I>“There was one part of Cheney’s speech that disturbed me though. From listening to Cheney (and others), you get the sense that they are now rooting for another terrorist attack.”</I>I totally believe this and believe that 9-11 was seen as an opportunity. In 1992ish Cheney, Rumsfeld and others drafted their plan to initiate preemptive invasions of countries throughout the Middle East. The first Bush President was smart enough to shelve it. That report stated that they would need a Pearl Harbor-like incident to implement it. They got their wish.<br /><br /><I>Why else be so vocal if you don't otherwise mean to set the stage?</I>Cheney is inoculating himself from prosecution. If Congress or the Administration ever go after him, he can say it is to shut him up.<br /><br />BTW- I am working on a Sotomayor/politics piece.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669616484991718478noreply@blogger.com