McCain has chosen Sarah Palin, Two-year Govenor of Alaska as his running mate. This might be a bold move. Choosing a woman is a likely a smart choice, but who is this person?
I believe it is an ethics investigation, as there wasn't any alleged criminal behavior. I vaguely recall when it happened. She is accused of dismissing (at-will employee) someone who, in her opinion, failed to adequately discipline state trooper Mike Wooten, who is her brother in law. He had threatened to kill her father, tasered his 11 year old stepson and was busted for poaching. His punishment was a 10 day paid suspension. Frankly, I fail to see why he should still be in law enforcement. FWIW, the Democrats that initiated the investigation have praised her for being so cooperative.
She has a record of taking on the corrupt good-old-boy Republicans in her state, appointing Democrats and Independents to her administration. She loves hockey and hunts moose and is very pro-gun rights. She is a hell of a better speaker than McCain.
That being said, I don't think it is enough to nullify the lameness of McCain. I suppose if I were solidly convinced that McCain was not long for this world, I would be more inclined to lend my support. Otherwise, I am not convinced she will have much say in what goes on.
I would have preferred if she said no and ran herself at some point in the future.
Considering how much the Republicans have dogged Obama for having a week resume, there isn't much here either:
"Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.
She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska's communities.
Sarah Heath Palin arrived in Alaska with her family in 1964, when her parents came to teach school in Skagway. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987. Palin, who graduated from Wasilla High School in 1982, has lived in Skagway, Eagle River and Wasilla.
She is married to Todd Palin, who is a lifelong Alaskan, a production operator on the North Slope and a four-time champion of the Iron Dog, the world's longest snowmachine race.
Todd and Sarah fish in Bristol Bay with their children – Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig. Through Todd’s Yup'ik grandmother, Alaska’s Native heritage plays an important role in their family. Track enlisted in the U.S. Army on Sept. 11, 2007.
Prior to taking office, Palin served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the state. She was active in her family’s pursuits – including serving as a sports team mom and school volunteer. She also runs marathons.
Palin is a lifetime member of the NRA and enjoys hunting, fishing, Alaska history, and all that Alaska's great outdoors has to offer."
Palin will appeal to religious conservatives; she is pro-life where abortion is concerned, opposes homosexuals and lesbians, shoots moose (pro-second amendment) and is pro-capital punishment. Plus, she isn't Mitt Romney. McCain certainly went for style over substance.
Steve got it right; I would have preferred if she said no and ran herself at some point in the future.
But, those goose-stepping with Dobson will fall right in line.
Obviously this is a desperate plea from McCain for Hillary supporters. A total hail mary. She's like the female Dan Qualye. Rickey can't wait to see her try to debate Biden...
Ultimately, this move is vaguely exist. She negates McCain's strongest point, experience, by being completely inexperienced. All she is is the only woman to say yes. They aren't using her for any other reason than the fact she is a woman, to prove some point that Republicans can be progressive too (just without being offensive). but her experience brings nothing to the table, meaning McCain still calls all the shots and controls the agenda. She is the "see, I can be inclusive too" face. She is not so much a running mate as she is a counter-point to McCain's perceived weaknesses.
As for the contention that this is a grab at Hillary supporters...I disagree. The real supports aren't going to vote for McCain just because he has a woman on the ticket. They're Dems and will largely stay that way. Maybe this helps McCain get the hoardes (ha...) of PUMA supporters...and he can have 'em. They're Republicans anyway. As for Indy women...maybe there's something there. But how many pople are really still undecided?
I agree with Ricky. McCain see's an opportunity to appeal to those Dem's that are pissed that Hillary got toppled over. "You want a woman, I got a woman over here! Yoo hoo! Look at me!"
Huh, is this some kind of bizarre math? Obama picks a VP with experience to offset his lack of experience and that is positive. McCain picks someone with a lack of experience and that is somehow negative. Shouldn't it be equal?
The presidency, from what I can tell, isn't ruled by some kind of wonder twins or duo, it is one person. Historically, there have been dozens of presidents that ignored and sometimes hated their VP's. The VP has very little actual power and only as much advisory say as the president is willing to listen to. In the case of Bush, too much say.
From my perch as a somewhat independent, it just seems like it doesn't make much of a difference to the party faithful who gets picked. Seriously, were any of you Obama supporters going to jump ship based on who McCain picked? Most of the die-hard Republicans I know could care less that Obama picked Biden. They were going to vote for him anyway.
The only reason your math doesn't add up is because people are now looking at McCain as a hypocrite. It will be pretty hard to keep calling Obama inexperienced when the VP he chose has been in office for a bit over 18 months.
Like I said, three times today, people don't vote experience, so I agree that in the end it will probably have little impact. That said, some people think he violated the one rule: do no harm.
As far as VP's having an impact, the last two had strong roles, so it seems to be a growing position these days.
Since I am completely partisan, I will probably make fun of McSame and what's-her-name anyway, even if I am a momentary hypocrite.
Since I am completely partisan, I will probably make fun of McSame and what's-her-name anyway, even if I am a momentary hypocrite.
No problem. I would do the same if I were you. I like Palin, but McCain deserves ridicule.
It will be pretty hard to keep calling Obama inexperienced when the VP he chose has been in office for a bit over 18 months.
Yes, but the difference is that McCain has more experience than Obama. If we are talking about VP, then Biden has the edge.
As far as VP's having an impact, the last two had strong roles, so it seems to be a growing position these days.
Gore did? I seem to remember it differently, though I may be wrong. Cheney certainly has influence. That being said, there influence is entirely at the whim of the President.
The conservatives are going all ga ga over this pick, so I think it is a bit early to say it was a bad pick. I don't know about the independents.
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This is the dumbest pick in the planet, at the very least for the fact that she is....um...undergoing a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
The election is over.
Not too mention now their pictures look like a gold-digger and her aging husband
I haven't read the criminal investigation part, but her husband and son are both Iraq war vets. Interesting stuff.
I read she can give a good speech too.
It will also be tough for Biden to hammer her in the debates.
At the risk of being sexist, another short of Palin:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/dayglored/Sarah-Palin-Miss-Wasilla-1984.jpg
I htink she is a good choice.
I believe it is an ethics investigation, as there wasn't any alleged criminal behavior. I vaguely recall when it happened. She is accused of dismissing (at-will employee) someone who, in her opinion, failed to adequately discipline state trooper Mike Wooten, who is her brother in law. He had threatened to kill her father, tasered his 11 year old stepson and was busted for poaching. His punishment was a 10 day paid suspension. Frankly, I fail to see why he should still be in law enforcement. FWIW, the Democrats that initiated the investigation have praised her for being so cooperative.
She has a record of taking on the corrupt good-old-boy Republicans in her state, appointing Democrats and Independents to her administration. She loves hockey and hunts moose and is very pro-gun rights. She is a hell of a better speaker than McCain.
That being said, I don't think it is enough to nullify the lameness of McCain. I suppose if I were solidly convinced that McCain was not long for this world, I would be more inclined to lend my support. Otherwise, I am not convinced she will have much say in what goes on.
I would have preferred if she said no and ran herself at some point in the future.
From the best I can tell she has been Governor for two years and was a PTA president before then.
Am I missing something?
Seems to me there are about 12 people within 100 feet of me right now who are more qualified to be President.
Considering how much the Republicans have dogged Obama for having a week resume, there isn't much here either:
"Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.
She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska's communities.
Sarah Heath Palin arrived in Alaska with her family in 1964, when her parents came to teach school in Skagway. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987. Palin, who graduated from Wasilla High School in 1982, has lived in Skagway, Eagle River and Wasilla.
She is married to Todd Palin, who is a lifelong Alaskan, a production operator on the North Slope and a four-time champion of the Iron Dog, the world's longest snowmachine race.
Todd and Sarah fish in Bristol Bay with their children – Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig. Through Todd’s Yup'ik grandmother, Alaska’s Native heritage plays an important role in their family. Track enlisted in the U.S. Army on Sept. 11, 2007.
Prior to taking office, Palin served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the state. She was active in her family’s pursuits – including serving as a sports team mom and school volunteer. She also runs marathons.
Palin is a lifetime member of the NRA and enjoys hunting, fishing, Alaska history, and all that Alaska's great outdoors has to offer."
Palin will appeal to religious conservatives; she is pro-life where abortion is concerned, opposes homosexuals and lesbians, shoots moose (pro-second amendment) and is pro-capital punishment. Plus, she isn't Mitt Romney. McCain certainly went for style over substance.
Steve got it right; I would have preferred if she said no and ran herself at some point in the future.
But, those goose-stepping with Dobson will fall right in line.
Well, I have said a million times, people don't vote experienc. So if she is a bit charasmatic, then maybe she will be a good choice.
The choice I thought would have been powerful was Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, but who knows, maybe this will fly.
LOL. She drives a Volkswagen Jetta. That will help gain votes in Michigan and Ohio. LOL.
Obviously this is a desperate plea from McCain for Hillary supporters. A total hail mary. She's like the female Dan Qualye. Rickey can't wait to see her try to debate Biden...
Ultimately, this move is vaguely exist. She negates McCain's strongest point, experience, by being completely inexperienced. All she is is the only woman to say yes. They aren't using her for any other reason than the fact she is a woman, to prove some point that Republicans can be progressive too (just without being offensive). but her experience brings nothing to the table, meaning McCain still calls all the shots and controls the agenda. She is the "see, I can be inclusive too" face. She is not so much a running mate as she is a counter-point to McCain's perceived weaknesses.
As for the contention that this is a grab at Hillary supporters...I disagree. The real supports aren't going to vote for McCain just because he has a woman on the ticket. They're Dems and will largely stay that way. Maybe this helps McCain get the hoardes (ha...) of PUMA supporters...and he can have 'em. They're Republicans anyway. As for Indy women...maybe there's something there. But how many pople are really still undecided?
I agree with Ricky. McCain see's an opportunity to appeal to those Dem's that are pissed that Hillary got toppled over. "You want a woman, I got a woman over here! Yoo hoo! Look at me!"
However, we can all agree that she is kind of hot, yes?
Can some sort of mud wrestling event between her and Michelle Obama be arranged?
(yes, Rickey is a sexist boor, but what the hell do you expect when a former beauty pageant contestant gets the VP nod?)
a few of use would not mind a MILF four-way with Michelle, Mrs. McCain - Buffy is it? and now Palin.
Huh, is this some kind of bizarre math? Obama picks a VP with experience to offset his lack of experience and that is positive. McCain picks someone with a lack of experience and that is somehow negative. Shouldn't it be equal?
The presidency, from what I can tell, isn't ruled by some kind of wonder twins or duo, it is one person. Historically, there have been dozens of presidents that ignored and sometimes hated their VP's. The VP has very little actual power and only as much advisory say as the president is willing to listen to. In the case of Bush, too much say.
From my perch as a somewhat independent, it just seems like it doesn't make much of a difference to the party faithful who gets picked. Seriously, were any of you Obama supporters going to jump ship based on who McCain picked? Most of the die-hard Republicans I know could care less that Obama picked Biden. They were going to vote for him anyway.
Steves -
The only reason your math doesn't add up is because people are now looking at McCain as a hypocrite. It will be pretty hard to keep calling Obama inexperienced when the VP he chose has been in office for a bit over 18 months.
Like I said, three times today, people don't vote experience, so I agree that in the end it will probably have little impact. That said, some people think he violated the one rule: do no harm.
As far as VP's having an impact, the last two had strong roles, so it seems to be a growing position these days.
Since I am completely partisan, I will probably make fun of McSame and what's-her-name anyway, even if I am a momentary hypocrite.
Since I am completely partisan, I will probably make fun of McSame and what's-her-name anyway, even if I am a momentary hypocrite.
No problem. I would do the same if I were you. I like Palin, but McCain deserves ridicule.
It will be pretty hard to keep calling Obama inexperienced when the VP he chose has been in office for a bit over 18 months.
Yes, but the difference is that McCain has more experience than Obama. If we are talking about VP, then Biden has the edge.
As far as VP's having an impact, the last two had strong roles, so it seems to be a growing position these days.
Gore did? I seem to remember it differently, though I may be wrong. Cheney certainly has influence. That being said, there influence is entirely at the whim of the President.
The conservatives are going all ga ga over this pick, so I think it is a bit early to say it was a bad pick. I don't know about the independents.
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