I never thought about it this way...
Monday, September 14, 2009
Guest blogger Alabama Moderate, over at The Gun Toting Liberal (one of my top 10 favorite blogs) has this to say about the Joe Wilson outburst. From the article:
His outburst has created a discussion on the true status of illegal immigrants in regard to H.R. 3200. And what appears to be getting through is the truth, for once. I wonder if that discussion would have taken place had Wilson kept his mouth shut.
I will admit that I did more research after I heard the comment and didn't really know prior to the controversy. I agree with AM, for the most part. Obama's position, while not 100%, is more correct than Wilson's and I think that the President certainly had a good faith basis to say what he did and that it was not a lie.
7 comments:
Good article at the link. Essentually "Minority Party Politics 101"
I have often thought of printing bumper stickers that say "Gun toting liberal" I actually don't own a gun, but considering the crazies all have them, it may be time for some lefties to rethink their stand on the 2nd Amendment.
How about gun-owning and not toting? Seems an important distinction.
And I can't find the stat, but I know I read that about 30% of those polled think Obama lied and Wilson was correct. So that's a bit scary, too.
I can guess what 30% it is.
I think 30% of this country couldn't find the US on a map, so nothing surprises me.
I think the GTL has bumper stickers. I may get one, but I tend to avoid bumper stickers. Owning versus toting. I suppose if you are worried about crazies, then toting makes more sense.
That GTL post is a good one. I know there's a lot of that behind-the-scenes strategy shit at play in legislation, and that makes perfect sense.
I'm not sure I'm willing to give Wilson a pass though. Whatever detail-oriented discussion is occuring on the immigration part of the bill is fine, but I think the fact that wilson's outburst was the bigstory coming out of the speech and still is means it worked more as a diversion, and nobody has spent any time on what Obama actually said.
I like that GTL post. Thanks for the link.
I think the fact that wilson's outburst was the bigstory coming out of the speech and still is means it worked more as a diversion, and nobody has spent any time on what Obama actually said.
And that's my whole problem. Rep. Boner gets to bitch and bitch this morning on NPR about why it's so bad to make Wilson apologize, when the issue is that Obama wasn't a liar, and that what he said was TRUE. I can't think of a news story in the past week that has said "oh, by the way, Obama wasn't lying." And that our health care system RIGHT NOW pays for illegal immigrants getting sick and hurt and that this proposal may be a way to alleviate that.
But instead, we get hysterical news stories about breaking fucking Congressional decorum.
I agree, Smitty. I have no problem with people calling Obama out (though not during a speech), but when they are wrong, the media needs to step up and say they are wrong. Wilson's claim is so tenuous, it borders on a lie itself. Morans!
I'd almost congratulate Wilson for a brilliant diversion strategy, but I think it gives him too much credit.
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